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The Ancient Wisdom Hidden in Your Voice

• Amanda Smith • Episode 68

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In this episode of the Gutsy Chick podcast, I’m joined by the incredible Jeremiah Da Rosa—a Juilliard-trained musician who made the bold leap from classical music to sound healing.  Today we are diving deep into how sound can shift your energy, open your subconscious, and even reconnect you with your own voice.  If you've ever felt the pull of music as more than just entertainment, this one’s going to speak to your soul. 

 

In this Episode:  

00:00 Introduction to Sound Healing and Music's Impact 

03:02 Jeremiah's Journey from Musician to Sound Healer 

06:05 The Connection Between Music and the Subconscious 

09:01 Exploring Musical Archetypes and Their Significance 

12:02 The Role of the Cello and Flute in Healing 

15:00 Understanding the Enchantrix Archetype 

18:02 The Power of Listening in Sound Healing 

21:04 Music as Medicine vs. Pacification 

24:02 The Temple of Sound: A Space for Voice Activation 

27:04 Conclusion and Future Directions in Sound Healing 


Here’s how to connect with Jeremiah Da Rosa: 

Jeremiah’s Website: https://www.jeremiahdarosa.com/ 

Jeremiah’s What is your Sound Healing Lineage Quiz: https://www.jeremiahdarosa.com/quiz 

Jeremiah’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremiahdarosa/ 
 

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Jeremiah Da Rosa. Oh my gosh, my brother. Thank you so much for saying yes to coming on Gutsy Chick podcast and speaking to us about sound healing, music in the subconscious, and all the crazy things that you and I have been doing together in a very short period of time. Thank you for having me. It's an honor. It's an honor to be with you and all of your listeners. Yes. Well, okay. You guys, he's a Juilliard trained, Juilliard trained musician, vocalist, internationally renowned performer. Like I love that I get to be in community with you, but also be trained by you. So you guys, I'm in his sound temple. We'll talk about that. Oh, but we had our first call for that particular thing. And I was so blown away and blown out and just like had to sit down because normally I stand. I'm standing during this podcast recording. I don't normally sit during calls, but I yeah, during the Temple of Sound first call, Jeremiah blew me out of the water. It was amazing. And we just came off of a trip to Hawaii where we did ceremony morning and afternoon for six days. ah So the first question I have for you is how in the world did you go from a Juilliard trained world-class musician to the temple of sound teaching people how to activate their own voices? And of course, being a sound healer for people. How'd you do that? Such a great question. I think we can all reflect on our life. And there are moments where we can look back and be like, that makes sense now that all those years and all of those decisions that makes sense now, but I can tell you for a lot of years, it did not make sense. I'll tell you why. It made sense for most of my life and that the desire to be to feel to feel connected to feel connected to the invisible, but also the visible in a way that only my body really understood. And this manifested as being a small child in the woods, like singing nonstop while swinging on a swing set. Like literally I would swing for hours, sing, sing, and I would just go into these ecstatic states of union. And I grew up in a Christian home, so the only words I knew were, you know, Jesus words. So I would just come back to my mom after this, like crying like, I just love Jesus so much. know, like those are the words that I, that I, that the language I had to describe these experiences. And that led to, okay, well, how do I merge with this desire as I grew older and my brain manifested the vision of dancing. And so I studied ballet for a short period of time because as soon as I was in the class, I was like, oh, it's not moving my body to the music. I need to be inside of the music. I need to be making the music. It was so clear. so at fifth grade, I was like, great music, we're going. And the flute chose me and I chose the flute. There was no negotiations. It was just one of these knowings from a deep place. And it was off to the races. Like, yeah, you know, when you find something you love at whatever age, and it's just it's a fit and I was so obsessed with like, I can move my fingers and all these all this music comes out of this metal tube. This is amazing. my gosh. So that's what you went to Juilliard and played. That's what I studied. And I had a secret though that I'll tell you. Which was... that I secretly wanted to be a singer. That never came out the entire time you were in New York at Juilliard. It did in surprising ways, um in a couple ways. So interestingly, if you want to nerd out for a moment, the flute is the closest to the human voice of all the instruments. So instinctually, was choosing something like, because there's nothing in your mouth, there are no strings. It is literally like you take a breath, you make an opening with your mouth and what comes out is what makes the sound so similar to what's happening in the vocal cords with the vocal tract. uh Okay, it's great. But here I was at Juilliard being recognized for the voice of my flute playing, and I was surrounded by the best up and coming opera singers in the world, you could argue. And so this type of pathway that is so devoted to specific specificity and tradition, it's really hard to give yourself permission to follow your other desires. And I see this with my clients. I see this everywhere. We em have a desire to do something or be something or explore something or create something in the world. And our mind interprets that desire in a vision that is inherited by what we see around us. in the models of um our peers, our ancestors, those who are successful. We look to the people who are making the money, who are getting the fame and like how they do it. My vision, my desire has to match that vision. So I was definitely living in that box that I chose for myself. And have you hung out in New York City much? Okay, so you know that in New York City, anything can happen. It is a vortex and you never know where you're going to end up in the night and who you might meet. true! So as you do as musician, I would end up at musician parties and I would meet people and I was at this amazing loft in the garment district with fellow creative musicians. And I met this Broadway singer who was super cool, like leather pants, super chic. You know, she's older than me and just like fabulous. And we were like vibing about music and I was just talking to her about singing, cause I'm secretly obsessed with singing. And I was like, Hey, do you think you could Maybe if I took voice lessons with you, that would help my vibrato, like these aspects of flute playing that are very vocal. And she's like, come have a lesson. So I started having lessons on the side, paying for it with my student loan money. my God. That is how that goes. Oh my gosh. with and she is still my vocal coach all these years later. Yeah, yeah. So that's that's a big part of the story. It's following my desire, no matter what. my gosh, I had no idea that the flute was that close to... is it the same tone? What do mean by tone? That's a great question. Oh, that is a good question. I'm not a musically inclined human. I am. But when it comes to the language, this is, this is where Pete, so I would say like notes, is it the same notes for a flute that your voice, cause isn't your like from a vocal range perspective? Yeah. It's the same range. especially for female, female bodied singers or female or, or not even female, there's a lot of males who can do really high things. um So for me, my range is definitely lower than the flute. And then I overlap by about an octave we share if I'm in my highest, highest register. um And then for the highest coloratura sopranos, that's a fancy Italian term for the highest pitch singers. the flute goes, um, probably like a fifth, like maybe a fifth or sixth higher than, than that. So, yeah, so they, the flute extent, flute is a bit higher than the human range, but, um the flute is within. Yeah. The, the, the, the higher human range. That is so okay. So if, if you tended to sink your voice to the lower range, how come you didn't pick another instrument? this is great. This is great. So uh you have a quiz. I have a quiz about archetypes and the and so it's it's actually really fun. The instruments you choose are so much an archetype of who you are. So. what I am on your quiz. Okay, you guys, his quiz is Jeremiahdarosa.com slash quiz. You can find out your voice's healing lineage, what lineage, ancient lineage channels through your voice. And there are four types and they're amazing. They're amazing. And they're anchored. I give you some Egyptian goddesses to help anchor them if you're into the Egyptian things. And if not, you get to be activated into some Egyptian magic. But yeah, it's how your voice, because we have all these pre, well, we just talked about it, It's like either you're a, soprano and alto a tenor of bass or you sing jazz or you sing classical or you sing, you know, rock or whatever. That's like kind of the genres of voice we have. But that's not no who how we show up with our voice is very different. And there are specific healing gifts and also specific challenges for each of those types. And when you know that you get to like kind of take a deep breath and be like, Oh my god. I don't have to be Adele or like, my god, I'm I can be I can be Adele or my own person. Yes. Okay. So you and I are enchantrix on your quiz. What? So you've already said I've got the lower range. I play cello. So I've been practicing learning. am very beginner of cello. And that to me is my range. That's the range that I like to be in. I like that deeper range. How does enchantrix play into the cello and then how does enchantrix play into the flute. Yeah, think the example, well, they're both great examples. And I think also we're starting to weave a couple different um energetic things that are happening with music and the music where, the tones we gravitate towards and how this lineage can show up um within that. For the flute, it's a little easier because the flute uh is a higher range instrument. It's easier to hear. It rides the top of the orchestra. Hmm. a bright silvery sound or metallic sound. So it cuts through a lot of the lower frequencies or mid frequencies if it is written to do so in any given moment in relationship to what it's being played with. But most people can pick out the flute if you're not trained, right? Tello's not as easy to pick out. That's right. That's right. And to have some fun, the flute players are generally like a bit of a diva. They are perfectionists. They are competitive. They want to stand out. They care about how they dress. They can be catty. They can also be extremely hardworking. They're extremely precise. um They are over the top. They can be eccentric m and they can be exacting and they make good business people. Type A, they are type A. Violinists also are this kind of vibe. uh Cellists are, they're like that, but cooler. pictured myself as doing a stand-up bass. like cello's the next closest thing, throw a bow in there, we're on the same track. And I always, like, when I see people who play stand-up bass, that's the word I use for them. They're just cool. But as I play cello, I'm not sitting there thinking I look cool. I'm sitting there thinking I have this ginormous instrument at a very low tone between my legs. oh And well, what's funny is if I had to pick a string instrument, it would be the cello. It would not be the violin, even though that would be the equivalent of the flute, you know, or a good translate or a good translation of that. The cello is, well, it's old, it's an old instrument in terms of its current body shape. And it has a lot of incredible music written for it by some of the world's greatest Western classical composers, which have given it a lot to do, like it gets given it a lot of voice, where some of the other instruments that are kind of in a low or mid range, like the double bass, it doesn't really have concerti, like these like, pieces that are for a solo, solo double bass and orchestra, or there's not a lot of moments where it gets to be featured. It's not a feature type instrument, but the cello can do all of that. It can do bass lines, supporting roles, and it can be the star of the show. It is one of the instruments that really can do it all. Mm-hmm. Do you remember the movie August Rush? Came out in the 90s had Robin Williams in it but it was about a little kid who had this orchestra brain and he was an orphan and his mom was a cellist and his dad was a guitarist and lead singer in a band and I remember her sitting there playing cello out in front of the orchestra and I was going that That. That. Yep, that's how this works. That, when you know like, that's for me. That's for me. So that's the Enchantrix piece for me. Got it. Okay. You guys go like if you've never seen August Rush, I cannot advocate for that movie enough. It didn't do well in the box office. It wasn't a huge hit, but it is so good. The music in it is phenomenal. Mm. And Robin Williams. um mean, come on. Genius. He went to Juilliard. He did. Yeah. Yes, did. Did he graduate from Juilliard? That might be another question. made me another question. Yeah. Yeah. All right, so on my quiz, you're a Chilster. And that's so ring true. Okay, let's talk about that for a second, because you're my only chillster on the podcast so far. And chillsters are few and far between, but I'm surrounded by them. My husband's a chillster. My daughter is a bruiser, so she's the same as me, which is makes for interesting butting heads. and side note, the reason that Grace wanted to play cello is, so both of us are learning together. It was from the show Wednesday on Netflix. Paint it black and nothing else matters are the two songs that she wants to learn how to play on cello. Yeah. Paint it black is, is it Rolling Stones? I don't remember. I have to look it up now, but nothing else matters is Metallica. Mm, it's a good one. Yeah, yeah. we're going to play this on, I can't wait to be able to play this on cello. I digress. Okay. So, Chilster. The Chilster on the Gutsy Chick podcast, or that's what we're on, Gutsy Chick quiz, is the one who really takes their time to make decisions. And like, my husband is a Chilster. And I know what it's like to live with this human. I don't embody this at all. I'm sure I do in some regard somewhere, because we always embody all of the archetypes, but this one's the lowest on my list. As a chillster, how did that help you be a sound healer? Listening, Yeah. Hmm. Yeah, that's the strategist piece. Like if you have to listen for a long time too, in order to be able to pick up the full puzzle. Yeah. it's this relationship, I think it brings up trust. And I'm not saying that chillsters or listeners have a better relationship with trust. I think every archetype has its own system of trust. But for me, it's this listening and this relationship with my body and what I do to where, I know when it's time to move. or I know when it's time to change the frequencies or I know, cause I'm listening and I'm in this relationship like a figure eight of sound and silence, sound and silence that is, and as an enchantrix, someone who wants to be like pumping out the star frequencies, you know, the star of the show, sometimes that's too much. And sometimes, sometimes what makes it special is when you wait and you listen. and you know when to bring what is necessary. So it's knowing when to open, when to create uh like a harmonic tension so that something can open and that you're really becoming this master weaver, but it's because you are listening. Mm-hmm. I love that. My husband is phenomenal when it comes to reading people and being very intuitive, but it really he takes his time to divulge what he thinks. And I so appreciate that because I'm the bruiser. I'm the opposite. I'm like, we're going to go straight at what's going on here. Here's what I see. And there you go. There it is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. my gosh. Okay. All right. Let's talk about music a little bit because I, this is something near and dear to me. I know that music has a way of changing how our bodies and our minds operate. And it's because the subconscious can't filter what we're hearing. What do you know about that topic? Yeah, wow. Well, it comes from my own experience being in deep relationship with music for so long in a way that I'm also thinking about it a lot. Not only receiving it as a part of the pleasure of life and then watching and observing the relationship of people that come to my sound healing events who receive my work at the highest level or just like on YouTube, for instance, you can you can listen to some of my work. And what's fascinating is the response range. uh For instance, some sounds can trigger the most blissful, euphoric states. And it's like, you know, like you said, you're hitting the subconscious, and the nervous system is responding immediately, immediately. And then information rises into the mental body of like what this is, what is happening, memories it might be associated with, uh all kinds of stuff. And also I've witnessed the same sounds, illicit like anger and grief and frustration. uh One of my favorite sounds to talk about is like when someone or I make like a kind of a guttural sound, something that's really deep and you know, growly. Some people are like, Oh my gosh, that is so grounding. That is so like connects me to my deepest nature that connects me to nature. It's like the sound of a volcano or a sound of the earth splitting or creation happening. And other people have looked at me like, there is dark demonic energy in this room now that that sound has been uttered. And I'm like, Yes, bring it, bring it, bring it. Tell me, tell me all the things because in this place, we get to witness the belief systems that have been created in our stored in our subconscious. Because when I take you into the temple of sound, which you've just entered, what is there on the top of the temple? And this is an etheric temple. By the way, if anyone's like, where do I go? But on the top of the temple, says, all sounds are beautiful. All sounds are holy. And this is something I believe and I have faith in. This is something I choose. And it's something that everyone can choose. You don't have to agree with that. You don't have to agree with what this temple says. You don't. You can choose to believe that everything is beautiful. Everything is holy. And from that place, you also get to, it reflects back to you. And all of this reflects back to you. Like, are you saying, if you're saying that some part of nature is evil, well, then you're saying there's some part of you that believes a part of you is evil. And that's fascinating and something to I'm not judging you go for it. Like, let's explore that. Let's see what else is there. And the sound can do this like nothing else. It's like a lightning strike. It is it is sort of neutral and that it is just energy. Yes, whoever's creating it has a lot of intention that they're weaving behind it. But when it enters your body, it is energy and what it interfaces with is all the structures of your subtleness and uh denseness. And from that comes, is births an experience, an experience that you can move through and choose your own pathway through for healing, for embodiment, for happiness, wholeness, magic, all of it. and you facilitate all of that. Where is a good place, a good sample that people can listen to your sound healing? Is it on YouTube? Is it on your website? Where do we send them so that they can get a solid, this is Jeremiah and how he helps me heal. Yes, YouTube, YouTube I have, I have some harmonizations, some infusions, sonic bridges, if you will, like these, yeah, you can imagine when you listen, even before you listen, like, hey, what am I up to? What do I want? What is my desire? Back to desire. And you know, that desire could just be like, I wanna open myself up to receive these vibrations and see what's. here for me. It could be as simple as that. Or it could be like, okay, he just released an ISIS infusion. I'm curious about this archetype of the great mother, you know, like, I don't know a lot about her. I would like to connect with her or connect with that energy that is available to me. That is mine to receive. That's one of my prayers always like what is please show me what's mine to see what is mine to do. Because we're not here to do everything or to see or be or all the things we're here for what's ours. That helps create a bit of a bit of a container. And then with that, okay, you get clear on your desires, then listen, then listen. And the first time you listen, let it be a bit ceremonial, like take a moment, be in your space, be in your body, and then allow the sound to enter your body. I mean, it will whether you want it or not. Yep. Your subconscious won't filter it. And here's the invitation, instead of being like immediately judging like, this is not my vibe, or this isn't for me, is to, great, stay with that feeling and stay with the track. Allow the track to present to you whatever it needs to present in your own field. And that could be like, whoa, this is so incredible. I have no idea what's happening, or this is so frustrating. I don't know what's happening. And then be there with it. Be there with it. And then... Take some breaths, check in with yourself, and I'd recommend listening again, listening again. And then listening maybe like the next day and maybe in a couple days, like this rhythm. And then the song being, I often call them song beings, becomes this mirror, like this mirror of your own growth and your relationship with that piece of music, that song being ends up blossoming into something. and you receive uh personalized song beings from me. And so you are very much uh initiated into this type of work where you are in partnership with sound on a very intimate level. Yes. Yes. And my gosh. I love that every time you send me a new sound being, say, let, let your guides guide you when to listen to it, where to listen to it, how you're going to be when you're listening to it, like sitting down, standing, running. Haven't done that in a while, but that invitation to get conscious before taking in that, that sound being that song that instrumental magic that you make and then afterwards going all right i gotta go journal now i've gotta go put this down on paper or i've gotta go talk to a friend or i need to process that because almost every single time something has gotten churned So there's your challenge, you guys. Jeremiah just laid the groundwork for you. Go to his YouTube, the link is in the show notes and listen to one of his songs and let it pick you. Yeah. You've taught me that. You've totally taught me that. And you know, when it comes to listening to music now, whether it's, I very rarely listen to music on the radio because I don't have control of what I'm going to hear. when I'm picking songs to go on my playlist. that there's intent behind it, always. And that's another challenge for all of you when you're picking the music that you're listening to, be conscious because your subconscious can't filter what they're saying or how they're presenting that music. And if it is harsh, expect to have harsh feelings show up like Jeremiah was just saying. I love that you point out that the shadow is totally okay. Yeah, we need it. It immediately made me think of the SNL with Lady Gaga most recently. And it became super controversial because she did some priestess ritual in a skit and that stirred some crap for people. And that's what she was going for. Because that's Lady Gaga. Her music is... happy, mid and low, deep, dark. So, you know, that's what you get with an artist like that. Yeah, now this speaks to music as medicine versus like pacification. um It's being really conscious, like you said, about the music we choose to consume just as we would the food. And I imagine all of your listeners are very much concerned about like the food that they're taking in, nourishment, balancing their digestion, having the energy that they need to do all the things they wanna do, it's intending the body. And it's this music. is the same. It's exactly the same. And yes, you can absolutely pick music to go out and have a beer with, right? To relax, to chill out. Yes, please. Country. the music we choose to be at the gym with to help support that energy of building strength or running for a long period of time. Yeah, me either. Not my jam, but there's definitely plenty of people who listen to this podcast that are marathon runners, ultra runners, more power to you. That's not my jam. You guys know that. Right, and within that, people have done the science of what beats per minute are for these different activities. What type of chordal structures, what types of harmonies supports these types of behaviors. And so that's exactly what I'm doing. I'm leveraging what's already in our current psyche and then also tuning in through my imagination of like. What else is in there? What else from like the past, from our ancestors, what else can I weave to elicit these responses, to invoke these openings, these portal openings within your own body so that you can have the things you want to have, the experiences you want to have, the growth you want to have. Yeah, yeah. The temple of sound. So we've got this cohort right now. When do you open your next cohort? July. Okay so that's good timing. This episode goes out at the end of May so I'm guessing you're probably going to be advertising that on your website but this temple of sound give us a little bit more about what it is and who belongs in the temple of sound. Yeah, yeah. Okay, if you're someone who has, like I did, the secret desire to sing, and maybe you don't even know what you want to sing, but you know you want to sing, and you have been told somewhere along the road that your voice isn't great, or you've decided through whatever reflections of your own growing up that like, my voice isn't beautiful enough, I'm not the singer-y type. I'm too loud. I'm too soft. don't sing in tune. I I'm always off key. I always sound bad, all these kinds of beliefs about your voice. And then also that turns into like, you don't love doing public speaking. You don't always like showing up in your full power. You don't love being seen all the time. and, and there's this desire within all of that, that, that to, um, to help, to use your voice to help, serve, to find. It's almost like the people who come to the temple are kind of like this place where like, they're exhausted. They're exhausted from like holding on to this like barrier, this uh protection of like, this isn't for me, but the desire is so strong and they don't know where to channel it, but they want to help. They want to use their voice. They know that maybe they're not going to be singing opera arias. They get it. They're like, that's not my path. but there's gotta be another way. There's a place for my voice. And I'm like, here at the temple, the temple is where your voice is going to be finally seen, heard. And then in this place, you will completely align yourself into this place of like, oh, harvesting all the wisdom from all of those old beliefs and fears. And you will step into this, centered self power that only can come from when you are in right relationship with who you are and the voice that expresses that there's no other because it's within your own body. There's nothing outside that can do this for you. It has to happen within it is a root chakra throat chakra relationship that is a perfect fifth, that has a perfect interval and when those that interval is in tune. Hmm. You can do anything. Yeah, I was told that I was tone deaf, that I didn't have rhythm that right. I'm like, well, I'm an athlete. know rhythm. I'm so, yes, if you can walk, you have rhythm. rhythm. Exactly. Your rhythms, you know, every walk is different. And if you can't walk, you brush your teeth, mean, life is rhythm, life is musical. Yeah. I love that you point that out. People need to hear that because that's, those are the things that, that we've been told. Yeah. Music has become this like elitist thing. Like there's an elite aspect to it, especially Western classical music. Wherein when we look at indigenous or cultures that have music practices, communal practices, community practices around music, they, it's everyone's involved. Everyone's singing, everyone's dancing, everyone's drumming. This is our, this is our ancestry. That's what's in our bones is singing together, no matter what your voice sounds like. Also having the times to be the leader of the song. to be one of the supporters, to be the drummer. Everyone gets to do all the bits. And that's what the Temple Sound is about, is finally facing those fears, which is the most amazing initiation. And then on the other side of that is really discovering what is the healing power of my voice? What am I gonna do with it? And the people who come are already doing transformational work like you, and... They might not do sound healing the way I do it, but they find their own way. And it might even just show up on how they, how they present themselves on social media, how they present themselves to their family and friends. And they might start, I have clients who are, know, Reiki healers, energy healers, who now are sounding in their sessions and having incredible, incredible results. Because as we just spoke of sound and energy combined with intention, mean, It's sound is the first law of manifestation in most cosmic traditions. like, we're leveraging that, like what we say, what we express is the reality that we create. we are gonna do a whole nother episode on that. I am excited about that. Yes, Jeremiah, love you, thank you. you too. Thank you. Thank you. It's so good to be with you and all of your listeners. Same, same, it's always good to be in your presence. Equally, equally.

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