Leading by Example: How Parents Can Foster Healthy Habits and Resilience in Their Children with Dr Tiffany Johnson

In this episode of "Spirit of an Athlete," host Amanda Smith interviews Dr. Tiffany Johnson, a holistic chiropractor, mother, and former athlete. They discuss the intersection of parenting, leadership, and mental health in young athletes. Dr. Johnson shares her journey from a timid individual to a confident chiropractor, emphasizing the importance of understanding the nervous system and holistic care. The conversation highlights the pressures young athletes face, the role of parents in fostering resilience, and the need for supportive environments. Dr. Johnson advocates for a holistic approach to well-being, integrating physical, emotional, and mental health.

In this Episode: 

• [00:00:05] The influence of parents on children's health and performance.
• [00:02:15] The importance of creating a safe and supportive home environment.
• [00:05:30] Challenges posed by modern life, including screens and social media.
• [00:08:45] Leading by example in parenting and personal well-being.
• [00:12:00] Rising mental health challenges among young athletes, including anxiety and depression.
• [00:15:20] The role of nutrition in supporting young athletes' health.
• [00:18:35] Building resilience in children through facing challenges and learning from failures.
• [00:21:50] The journey of self-discovery and personal growth.
• [00:25:10] The significance of community support for parents and young athletes.
• [00:28:25] The holistic approach to wellness, integrating physical, emotional, and mental health.

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Email: drtiffany@htchiro.com

Website: www.htchiro.com

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Transcript

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Welcome back to another episode of spirit of an athlete. I'm your host, Amanda Smith, and on this episode I interviewed Doctor Tiffany Johnson. She is a holistic chiropractor who is a mom, a wife. She has two kids who have done high level athletics, including college. She's experienced many things in terms of being a leader in her family as well as in her business. On this episode, we talk about a lot of different things, but the ones that I want to highlight here so, you know they're coming Is leadership. How to be a leader as a parent and a mom in particular for an athlete. But just in general, all the things that we have to know and teach before our kids go off to college or become adults, and how to navigate that, how to navigate the nervous system and allow for anxiety and depression to move through instead of get stuck in the body. Tiffany does a phenomenal job of helping us understand how to use someone like her in the chiropractic industry to move away from the Western model of medicine. I truly hope you enjoy this episode. Doctor Tiffany Johnson, thank you so much for saying yes to being on spirit of an athlete. You're welcome. Okay, so what was life like before you became a chiropractor? Well, it feels like I've. I've had more of more of life with with being a chiropractor than before. So, um. Oof, I, I was a follower. Uh, I was timid. I didn't speak up. I didn't know what I wanted to do with my life. Um, it's kind of like I was maybe a minnow in the ocean, like, oh, let's just let's go here with these groups of fish, and then. Oh, no, no, the current was too strong that that's about what it was like. And so, um, my, I mean, back, back in the day, travel sports was not what travel sports is like now. Right. Thank goodness. Um, so I played basketball a lot, but not like how people play now, and all I knew was going to college. I, um, I wanted to play basketball and I was introduced to chiropractic my eighth grade year, actually, with ankle and knee pain. And I went a different route than just athletic chiropractic. But, um, but that very much so opened my eyes on, on chiropractic and performance and how much more I want to help kids and not necessarily physically, but at that moment it was psychologically, psychologically. So, um, I wanted to be a psychologist. I wanted to work in, like the sports psychology era. Yes. Um, and then I recognized that, like, medication goes with that, and I'm not for that. And so, um, I really just started digging into what would make me the most happy to take care of people, to use my personality in the way that I know I can move a room. I did know I can move a room even back then, but, um, and really give hope to people. And so before, I mean really before I decided to be a chiropractor, which was my official junior year of college, um, I'd say everything was pretty rocky. I was highly impressionable. I didn't know who I was, what I really stood for at all. And so I've had quite, a quite a depth of personal development, uh, in these last two decades. That tends to happen when we decide we're going to be an entrepreneur. You're right. And a mom. So you are a mom of athletes, is that right? Tell us a little about that. You. Yeah. So, Callan, um, they're graduated now, but Callan is 23, just graduated from college, who played college soccer, high school soccer and basketball. Um. Gavin graduated last year. He played. He played basketball until he was a sophomore. And then football had a season ending injury actually last year. Um, well, that was a it's a tough gig for, for a family who does things a little bit different than medical, right? Because in injury in a sport puts you directly into the medical system. And we chose not to go to the medical system. And so, um, yeah, that might be a conversation for a different day. But, um, we were we were both high school and college athletes. Both Craig and I were. So we coached our kids just about all the way through. Um, I mean, we were running soccer clubs and we were doing all the things in order for our kids to have an opportunity to play. Um, and so Cowan always we always knew she would be a college soccer player, like, since she was this big. Yeah. And Gavin, you know, we were just having this conversation actually last week. And he's like, I, I mean, once the little boy dream of being the pro athlete, you know, pro athlete is done, he's like, I never I never really wanted to I, I saw what Callan went through. I saw what your guys's stories were with it. And my value was, this is interesting coming out of his mouth. He said my, my identity was not as an athlete and I didn't want it to be as an athlete. Okay? And he's an athlete. But you know the difference, the difference in like the kids that aren't anything else. And all of a sudden they get down with their college sport or semi-pro sports and they don't know who they are. He's seen enough of that to know that he didn't want to go that route. So interesting. That's a that's some amazing awareness at that age. Truly. I was definitely one of those kids that was wrapped into my sport and identified as my sport. And when it was all over, went into a small period of depression. I experienced a depression before that, when I had to switch from Division one to Division two softball because of coaching situations, and that that put me into a deep, dark depression. Are you seeing anything like that with him? Like he's. No, he's not tied to that at all. So it's just easy peasy. Yeah. Like not none at all. None at all. Whereas if Cal couldn't have played college, um, for whatever, for whatever reason, she would have went through that, um, her college years were, I mean, just success of the team. Everything was kind of rocky. Mhm. Um, and just understanding college sport versus high school sport, not being home, all the things. Yeah. Um, so she couldn't freakin wait to be done and, and expand her identity in her own way and not be tied to that. So I see this all the time. I see the, um, I say addicted to winning in a positive way, but like the true winners, like there's a difference between the true winners that actually don't lose. And and unfortunately, they also don't know how to lose because they never have. Right. Well, I mean, yes, I understand some people say there's so many gifts in the losing. Yes. And there's a lot of gifts in the winning. But what happens when we start to dismantle the identities that go with being a successful winner in your sport? Now, to just a normal human living and breathing the same air that all of us do. Yeah, yeah, depression is real. Yes it is. You and I talked about this before in the the pre-interview you've just recently dealt with your own level of depression. Is that right? Oh. Yeah. I, um, I wouldn't say recently, I would say I, I would say the, um, the spring has always been rocky for me from, um, the time I was 15, interestingly enough. And when I stopped drinking three and a half years ago, I kind of forgot that because, like, I don't know, it's spring and it's summer and it's hello apps and taps. And patios and all the things. Yeah. Um, yeah. I think recognizing some of the patterns that we, that we go through and the seasons that bring them out and the coping strategies that we used to have to tell us a whole lot about where we need to go for healing in the next era of of really who we are. Yeah. Did your daughter experience any blues, any depression when she was done playing her sport? Nope. I would say she did while playing because she played early. Um, she made higher level teams at a younger age and wasn't with her, her team, her friends. So you're always, like, in implanted into another demographic of people. Okay. Um, she hit puberty late. She ran cross-country her eighth and ninth grade year. Um, so she was just like. I mean, we make fun of it now, but a truly a little girl as a freshman. Still didn't didn't know how she felt about boys. Didn't was hardly had her period. And then she didn't have it when she was across runner and. Mhm. Um and really struggled with like identity issues then of like, oh my gosh, all these, all these girls and all these friends are talking about all these things and I am not anywhere near this, this place. And so she actually went through a lot of harder stuff growing up in that, um, freshman to senior. I'd say her her college years were the, the well the hard easy. She knew who she was. Her college years put it that way. Nice. What made her the most sad is how many people struggled. And interestingly enough, we didn't talk about this before we talked the last time, but, um, she was on a committee in college that, um, they were really digging into mental health and starting to put out surveys and put out polls of like, how are you doing? And, um, and she was a major. She vouched for this very strong. And there are a few of them that carried carried this through. Um, because she knew her, how much her friends struggled. I mean, it's just like, not even struggled, as in clinically depressed, but just kind of always struggled. Right? And she's like, oh my gosh, these guys, if they don't if they don't plan the soccer team, they think that means something about their personal identity and all of these pieces. But, um, she spearheaded with a few other people, like a mental health survey that they sent to all the athletes, um, of this college. And it was mind blowing how much anxiety, how much depression, how much suicidal ideations there were in the athletes, because she always thought that was our safe place. Like, that's our home. Yeah. I mean, we shouldn't be miserable, right? And then you put pressure and expectation on it, and then you put different coaching philosophies, and then you put trying to figure out who the hell you are and your life and what you're going to do after. And boom, if you don't have enough tools going into that, that time of your life, you might dip a little bit too far. So yes, I just went on a tangent on that. I think it's a very she's, um, she has very strong beliefs on what the athletic world needs right now and what they need from their coach, what they need from their ad, what they need, um, from each other, and the culture that really needs to be built in, in schools now and on teams. Yes, yes, that I thank you for bringing light to that. I think there's a lot of listeners of this podcast that their kids want to go and play in college, or they are playing in college and they're experiencing this and they're they're really going, well, Why? Why are we experiencing this? I mean, it's we are post-Covid, so a lot of things have changed since Covid, but even still, this was an issue in sports for a very long time because as athletes, as high level athletes as well, I mean, if you're playing in college, you're among the top 5%. If you're playing Division one, depending on the sport, you're in the top 1%, top 1%. And that just understanding that by itself puts pressure on you. Yes. And then you've got to put pressure on yourself to produce on a day to day basis, not only in your classroom. You've got to pass those classes in order to play. You've also got to play to the potential that the coach is expecting you to play at, so that you can keep your position. Yes. Yeah. The amount of pressure that that college athletes especially put on themselves, is pretty phenomenal. And then it just escalates from there. If you're playing pro, if you're in the Olympics, if you are doing World Cup, Commonwealth Games, any of those, that is all the elite levels international, semi-pro, it doesn't matter. You are in the upper echelon of that sport, but this is also being seen at the high school level. Um, and I would say because I've been working with people for truly two decades and I see so many families, it is way before high school. Yes. I mean, I'm seeing it in second and third grade. I'm not even joking. Yep. Of where the pressure is coming from. And I've been I've been contemplating this a lot, you know, like, um, how many of these kids have parents that they're living through, right? Like, I get to live through, you know, all my successes and failures. Now I get to live through my kids and I get to do all these things, and their family might not be unbreakable, right? Like they might not truly feel safe in all those places at home. And so all of a sudden, a parent that has has pressure or that they have expectations, that really isn't what their kid wants. Holy crap. Yes, I was just reading a stat, actually, since Covid. Um, because anxiety depression is one of my x factors of like what? I have a magic stick in. Okay. Yeah. Um. Anxiety has went up 26% since Covid for years. 26%. And I and that's like truly a diagnosis. So I would say from my I mean, from my perspective, I would say it's probably close to 50. Yes. Because and that is not just adults. Yeah. That's a lot of people not addressing going to the right person to get that kind of diagnosis. Yes, absolutely. Uh, I said this on, uh, another person's podcast that I was on when when Covid hit, the whole world's foundation got rocked the whole world. And we saw it at a systemic level. Right? We saw it at the the foundations of our financial system. We saw it at our food system. We saw it at obviously, our medical system. That was the most apparent. If you didn't notice that our medical system couldn't handle the fact that we had a pandemic. Yeah, our medical system couldn't handle it. So we were seeing across the board systemic problems, foundational problems, which is created, this level of uncertainty, which if you look at Maslow's hierarchy, that foundation is food, water, shelter, and then that layer right above it, that's safety. Everybody's safety has been rocked since Covid, and now we've got a bunch of mental health issues really, really coming to the surface and we're seeing more and more people take action. We're seeing more and more people coaching mindset and coaching mental health and sports. It's it's we're in a boom for that. Which I'm like, Hallelujah. Yeah. Because we're from an just athletes perspective, there's a lot of unnecessary stress that kids are putting on themselves to produce, but they don't see it that way. The adults can see it that way because we have perspective. They see it as this is this is what I have to do. This is my existence. Yeah. And and then from an adult perspective, like. It's it's I think it was the most interesting to drive a. Car. After we finally got let out across the globe and people's PTSD came out in road rage. Yeah. And it became like they got super easily agitated if there was another person in front of them driving. Yeah. And it it still plays out like the area that I live in. We've got a lot of fast drivers. And those fast drivers will ride your butt and you're going the speed limit or maybe even a little over the speed limit, and you're in their way. And they let you know in all different ways, shapes and forms to let you know. Including but not limited to trying to run you off the road with their car. That's a mental health issue. It's just like I would see it as, uh, a threshold issue. I mean, our, our core need is connection in living, like our core need is to be connected with people, to be connected with thoughts, to be connected with ideas, to be connected with a higher power, to be to be connected. And so what that did was that shook the foundation, I mean, the true foundation of what it means to actually be alive, like feel alive because you feel alive when you're with people and when you can experience love. And and so it's it took that away, truly. And when we aren't experiencing something, we lose threshold. We don't know how to handle it right. We don't know how to handle conflict. We don't know. And yes, I mean coming out in road rage or coming out whatever, whatever all the things are, there's a million things like not going totally right right now. Right. Um, we we recognize, though, that it is truly a lack of connection and a lack of, well, just a change in philosophy of living, you know, like, yeah, for 50 years, somebody could believe something and all of a sudden, boom. And it's going to keep happening. I mean, in the next few months, there's going to be more booms on. This has changed. Yes. The perspective and lens that you see through and that you saw through before is not the same, and it's never going to be the same. And so our adaptability has been rocked. Our, um, tolerance has been rocked, our threshold has been rocked. And I see this in the nervous system. Right. Like I see this in parents ability to lead their kids. I see this in kids ability to connect with other kids. I see in their ability to adapt to getting cut from a team or not getting their way, or, I mean, it's showing up everywhere. I'm seeing it in toddlers and infants not hitting their milestones. Well, who who? Baird. Them a stressed out mom. Yes. So we can go from the top and go down. And I mean I can totally understand like I could have predicted these trends. I could have predicted them. No wonder why they're anxious and depressed when they're freaking five. Well, where did where did they come from? And what what place did they have they grown up in? That is opposite of connection because that's what's been taken away. Yeah, yeah we're looking at epigenetics here and then environment. Yeah. Yeah man I love that you've brought up the nervous system. Let's let's go there. So you're seeing across the board anxious humans how in your work as a chiropractor are you helping them from a nervous system perspective. Mhm. Well I, I function and I practice a little bit differently. I've always seen emotion. I've always seen energy when I adjust and I always say your body tells me what to do now to the higher level. I would say I'm very connected with God that my energy is a catalyst in an activation for their body to talk to me. Okay, so let's just get that out of the way because most people are going to be like, what the hell are you talking about? You're a you don't need to know what I'm talking about. What I'm finding is people are looking for way more people like me. Yes. Oh, how can we start to do something for our self, for our bodies, for our brains, for our life? That doesn't include traditional models. So I know when your mental body is tapped out. I know when your emotional body, like I know, I know all those pieces. And so the adaptability, it has been crushed. So that's what I'm seeing the most. And adaptability, that doesn't sound like that big of an issue. But it's it's everywhere. Because if you can't adapt in a stressor and, and, or you can't not take it personal or you can't do anything other than yell or cry or retreat or what have you, then you you can't actually handle connections. See, this all then goes back to a dysregulated nervous system is a dysregulated body, which means it's a disconnected. Disconnected from God, from each other, and from itself. So my job is how do we activate the God given things, the God given pieces that are meant to actually make a difference in someone else's life? How do we activate this? So now we don't have a diagnosis of anxiety or depression, and I think it's total bullshit, frankly. Um, but I say it's bullshit because I have many, many, many years of reversing this without the use of pharmaceuticals, without the use of all the even all the trauma work. It puts people into tailspin many times if you're not doing it the right way. Yes, it puts you into a tailspin of you not being good enough. And if you don't think you're good enough and deserving enough and worthy enough, then how would you ever heal? Like, how truly, how would your body ever heal? And whether it's a a sports incident, which there's many of those now also like hello, we're looking at the same thing. We're looking at dysregulated people. Yes. And unfortunately dysregulated kids don't always have a regulated home to come back to. And so they're dysregulated body and mind and psyche aka soul is also being mirrored at school. It's being mirrored at work. It's being mirrored in their sport. It's being mirrored everywhere. So no wonder, I mean, they think this is normal now. Yeah. So if you don't give a kid a chance to feel ease in their body, they don't ever know what it is. And so they start to experience now as normal. Well, it ain't normal to be anxious or depressed or have chronic pain, or not be able to think or not be able to sleep, or not being able to poop or not being able to breathe. Like, let's get real. Like the inhaler is not okay, right? The inhaler on the field is not okay. And I stand for something very different than most people stand for. And I, I stand for it because I know it can. I mean, with my own eyes. I see miracles every freaking day. That proves that this can change in this. This can be different. I love that, I absolutely love that. As well. As I allow my nervous system to wiggle. Out. Ah, I know it's. It's hard and I'm seeing it with a bunch of my kids. It's hard to watch and to know that part of this is the parents and their energy, their way of navigating the world and the environment that their kids are in. At any point when you're working with someone, do you point that out like mom, dad, the reason your kid has this issue is because of you. 100% of the time. How do you approach that? By not walking on eggshells because we've become so soft. Truly, like, I want one of my premises for anybody coming into work with us as you were, we're a partner, we're in a partnership. And so if you feel like you're coming here to be saved or coming here for me to handle your kid, then this isn't the right partnership that I will ever. I won't ever get into it. And so. But what I've found is we as parents know it's that nobody has the kahuna to actually talk about it. Yeah. So if you know and I know and I love you, and you love and respect me. We have a level of rapport that's already built in the level of foundation. It would be out of integrity and out of what I'm put on the planet for, which is to tell the truth, to not say anything. And that's what I feel like is happening. There's a lot of experts that are treating something without talking about parenting, without talking about mindset. And when a kid gets old enough, if if I know that there's a lot of influence from the parents that are pulling that child away from the direction he or she wants to go, that I also believe that's the direction I'll talk directly to them. But when they're, you know, three, 4 or 5, eight, ten, like the influence is heavy at home and and that could be in, in medical things like diagnosis that could be reaching for the Aleve when you have achy legs or pain, or taking Pepto-Bismol when you have heartburn. I don't know if people still do that, but they do. Like, there's a lot of. So it's that because that has been imprinted into their brain, it's the importance on sleep, it's importance on screen time. It's, um, I just went for a walk last night and I was talking to myself. I talk to myself all the time, either into voxer or just out loud to myself. People probably think I'm going bananas, but you're. Talking to your phone. You're fine. Mathematical, but. But that's that's one thing that, um, I really believe is the most important is to point out the the needle movers. My, my job is to point out the needle movers. And you are directly responsible for developing your kids frontal brain. Yes. And so we have to be better because there's no way. And I'll go to bat with anybody that says my kid would rather be on a screen than hang out with me. And no way that is not true because we are born and we thrive in connection. It's just that you haven't taught them how to do it, or it's not done in a way that they love it, or that they feel safe, or there's something off in your leadership of what connection means in your family, because now they're finding new homes and new friends and all these things online. And it's the it's fake connection. I mean, thank God there is some of that. Okay, so I'm not saying it's all negative, but, um, but we can't run from here to there because there is no safety and connection in our homes. Yeah, man. Right. I love that you point it. You pointed out to them you have the guts to point it out, because there are a lot of people in the coaching world, especially where coaches are constantly observing the kid. And then eventually you observe the parents as well, and you understand what's going on, truly, especially for me as athletes, I'm seeing like the dynamic between the parents and the kids. And for you, you have the guts to to say, hey, here's what I'm observing. This is this is the thing that needs to be addressed at home. I've definitely, uh, at times, I've I've tiptoed around that in my coaching because I've built a relationship with the parents, and I know the parents are good people, and I've built a relationship with the kids, and the kids are are good kids. But in combination, there's something wrong. And it's it's sometimes very hard to go, hey, parent like, I know I'm not your kid, and I know I'm not a parent to your kid, but I'm trying to support all of you. And this is what's going on in in some instances I will bring it up, but it's it's the ones where the parents are the ones that really want their kid to succeed. Totally. That's exactly what you want them to do. That to a certain extent, right? There's a there's this level that there's this line that you can't cross. And some of my parents that, that I've worked with currently and in the past, they definitely crossed that line. And their kids are falling apart and their kids are going to hit that point where they they're going to quit the sport because of it. Yeah. And they're gifted kids. They're really great athletes. And to some extent, they need that sport to have the connection. Right. And to really foster the confidence and the certainty and the conviction that they have of themselves through sport. I mean, that's what we all love about sport is it's it's where so many of us did find ourselves in whatever way. Of course we can go extreme any way in anything and and know that like two black and two white is probably going to get a little bit extreme. It's going to get a little dicey. Yes. Gray is the area we want. I feel like it's I feel like, um, I feel like it's our duty to speak up. I love that. I love that I wouldn't be able to. Yeah. I wouldn't be able to put my head on the pillow and. And. Yeah. Are there some people that don't like it that. Yeah. And that's okay. That still is my duty for the voice of a child. And because I am extremely intuitive, like, I just know and know how to communicate that in a way of like, hey, this is what she really needs. Like, I it's, we gotta change some things. Like, truly, this is what she needs. So can you start offering this? I mean, food is huge. Food is huge right now. Like paying attention to what they're eating and what they're drinking and what they're what they're really fueling with. And truly the mindset around what food is, because these kids are on social all the time and not positively on social for food, usually. Right? Right. And water can't stress that one enough. And water. Exactly. I'm like, I need a drink, I need I need a drink too. Well. Huh? Oh. Doctor Tiff. If you were closer to me. But you're not that far away. But if you were closer, you would be my chiropractor. No, I love it's actually one of my missions is I got that there just needs to be more. More people that see the body in this way and connect with people in this way. Because. We really as parents and like women are looking for this for our families. Yes. Like, how do we help everybody and how how in one person is helped and improved, whether that's a mental thing, a physical thing like the whole family changes. Mhm. We need more of this like the depths of what it means to compete, what it means to be a mom, what it means to be a mom and a an entrepreneur, what it means to have a strong marriage and then show that to our kids like this all matters so much more. And when they're out of the house, you you actually don't have much of an opportunity to lead in that way anymore. Right. So I think this is the time I think, uh, as as a mom, uh, sometimes we get overwhelmed by all of the things that we have to do in order to teach our kids what they need to accomplish by the time they're moving out of our house, which is generally around 18. And the fact that we have to lead by example is probably one of the trickier things for moms, because a lot of moms know they've gathered the information, they know what they need to teach their kids. They know all the things that their kids should walk away with by the time they're 18. But to actually lead it by example. That's the tougher thing. But what does that mean? To lead by example, you've got to eat healthy and be able to demonstrate that to your child, especially if they're athletes and they're using their bodies a lot more. You've got to be able to teach them what leadership looks like. Be that leader, because they will probably be in a leadership role at some point in their lifetime. Usually beyond when they're at home, unless they got the cool opportunity to be a captain of a team. Any team doesn't matter if it's sports or academics or whatever. To have a healthy relationship with your your partner. That example. That one. I feel like that one's probably the trickiest one out of them all, because we have such a high divorce rate. There's a lot of people who haven't figured out how to have a healthy relationship with their partner. I just recorded right before I got on. That was my monologue recording for my podcast. That is going to be next because I, I strongly stand for marriages, and we got to figure out how to make it work. We can just run and and with so much conflict in raising kids, so much conflict in the financial system and the health system and so many different philosophies. It gets gets a lot harder. And so I know it's interesting. I just wrote like what is leading by example mean? Because I think there's the what you mean and the purity of lead by example. And then there's the ten that which in my opinion is what I see every woman struggling with. Because there's one thing to lead by example, there's another to be a freaking human. Like, yes, yes, like own. When things don't go well. Exactly. And talk about that to to the level that the child can handle. And that's the other thing is like, I feel like every parent should go through a childhood development course to understand, like, okay, at two years old, don't put your child in front of a horror movie, right? That's basic. But but at the same time, there are parents who do that because they're like, oh, they're two. They're never going to remember this, but they're they're sponges at that age, and horror is going to show up a different way in their body. Yeah. Like it's it's understanding when you can have an adult conversation with your teenager. Right. And when they can actually take on that information. Yeah. Yep. Divorces. It is one of those tricky ones. Mhm. Depending on how it is in every kid is so different. And how you raise them from an emotional intelligence and from an energetic intelligence standpoint also matters. Right. And so I mean, we have created a very open family. We talk about things from a very young age. And if we always said like if we can give you some hard stuff and you can also see that it's okay, so we can get in an argument. Excuse me. Jeez. And it's going to be okay. We can, um, confront you with something you can fail at, something you can get cut from something. It's going to be okay and let that happen in the safety of your house. If you've created a safe home. Because I just even think of our kids. Yes, they wobble and they waffle and they're growing in, but they're up for everything and they know they're going to be able to handle it. So the more we keep from them, the more we think they're weak and they can't handle it, the softer they are to truly not be able to handle it, or the harder they get faster because they don't have the tools to stay soft. Yes, there are tools to protect and to put a guard up and then boom. Well, now we're running into that with women and moms that are not in their feminine very often because they shut that shit down. They they couldn't handle it. They forgot what pleasure was. I think that's the number one thing that I'm I'm noticing and recognizing. And the people that I work with is they forgot what true joy and pleasure is and the things that light them up. Yep. And they don't know. They, they've, they've forgotten. It's like they just you know what? We're going to put that in a closet. We're going to shut the door on that closet. And you know, I'll take it out whenever I need to, but oh yeah, I forgot to do that because I had 72 other things to do as a human. I would say 90. I mean, that percentage is probably low, but 90% of women that come into our office and I see very successful women that have a purpose and that are leading things. Right. Um, they have lost the who they are along the way. And, and I think we can say that concept is normal, but settling for that is not normal, right? Right. So so true. Oh my God. Yeah. Doctor Tiffany, we have covered a lot. It's the best way, man. Exactly. We're going to have to do this again. I'm going to have you on again. We're going to have another conversation. It's going to be a little more directed, a little more fine tuned. Talking to parents of athletes, probably around what, what really should be, how to lead your child and examples of of that so that they can have some more concrete things to walk away with are thank you so unbelievably much for being on the show. Where can people find you? My Cairo site is H.t cairo.com. So healing touch chiropractic and then mentorship side is doctor Tiffany Johnson. Com and Instagram is Doctor Tiff and you know like those are my names Doctor Tiff Johnson and Doctor Tiffany Johnson. So I'm out there. Excellent. All of those will be in the show notes for everybody to reach out to Doctor Tiffany and connect with with you. You truly are a wealth of knowledge. You have some amazing gifts and you have some very beautiful ways of working through this world. So thank you. Thank you, thank you for doing this. Thank you for bringing bringing this to light. I think the more people feel like they're part of something that is improving and uncovering how to be better, the better we get as a whole. So I appreciate. This. Because I truly, we were all a kid at one time, and most adults didn't do a ton of work. And so we're all still kind of kids and adults in the adult body. That's how it feels sometimes. And so when we're parenting our kids through some tough stuff, it. We don't always know how to do it and what to do. So we we have to come back to our own truth. Then the moms, the dads, the everybody first so that your kids can see that, hey, I might mess up a lot, but I'm I'm messing up, at least in more truth, than I ever was before. So beautiful. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks for listening to spirit of an athlete podcast. If you're struggling with your own gut issues and want more direction, you can get an initial body scan from Amanda at Body Whisper Healing Comm. In 20 minutes, you can find out what's wrong. Okay, clarity map the fast forward and get on track to get back in your game. If this episode hits the spot, please let us know by rating, reviewing, and sharing it with a friend. Subscribe now to hear more inspiring stories from other female college athletes who overcame their health issues. Want more Amanda? Get inspired by finding more at Body Whisper healing.com.